47 پاسخ به “StarCraft 2 – [P] PvP Proxy Gateway Into Void Ray – استراتژی”

1. By not being bad!! DRETAR xD

2. So 1 lesson definitely learned: counter proxy gateway with 2 gateways.
   2. Voidrays are countered with cannons.

3. This just happened to me.. How do you counter it.

4. i thought combatex did this LOL

5. what do you mean ar like 22 supply and 36 supply is that what he has left over i dont understand that?

6. Wow! Amazing strategy, thank you Force!

7. @ZiggyIsGrape saying that is just like saying battle crusiers, thors, brood lords, muta's, etc to go away…. just saying

8. I've done this strategy before. LOL

9. @ApoC552 Verily thou got owned

10. @brigi99
    then he just lost like 1000 minerals.. GG

11. @ApoC552
    well first of all you can make any mid diamond player overreact through something that he thinks is all in cheese and then go for death rays.. sure this might not work against HuK or WhiteRa, but it sure as hell would work against me lol.
    Also note that the opponent actually started massing stalkers asap, but as the voidray were there too quickly and the warp in zealots took some damage it was gg regardless.

12. void rays needa go awAY

13. GREAT video as always. Also FYI – Dylan Foote wants to play some games.

14. IMO this would have worked better if he had gotten the cybercore instead of the second gateway and then a stargate straight away after that

15. One question: What if the enemy attacks the proxy gateway with his probes and destroys it before it is build?

16. I think, Mana would have done better if he had not teched to robo an twilight council and pumped out a few more stalkers. sure, by sacrificing the proxy gate, he was forced to throw down an additional gate, but was it really worth it?

    i had an opponent do a similar build against me and i was able to repell the voidrays (had a few stalkers, threw down a stargate) and came out with an eco advantage.. however.. my extractor went down due to cannons near the cliff and that cost me the game.. 🙂

17. @ApoC552 0wned

18. awesome strategy. but when is the WoW playthrough going to come back?

19. @AshJesusFollower1 Haha the probe wasn't "stuck." If you have the probe patrol to a position in extreme close proximity, then the probe will start "spazzing" out. It's quite funny to watch, try it! =D

20. hey what would u do while ur building ur gateway all the scv or probes attack the gateway or the pylon i know it will stall them for a bit but not long enough to kill them? please reply

21. @ForceSC2strategy ownt

22. wat does it mean when something is "cheesy" ??

23. Man, this strategy is so cheesy and gay, yet so smart and badass!!! Gotta try this out 😀

24. @taytaybwilliams

    When I say "I don't subscribe to this logic" I mean "I do not commonly utilize this type of logic". I do not mean "I do not subscribe to you channel. Subscribe is very commonly used in this sense eg. "I don't not subscribe to that mantra".

    You learned something today 🙂

25. @ApoC552 feel free to unsub then…. It's hard to look at the facts when you need to do something in return when being rushed. Thats what makes this build slightly more powerful because people are going to overreact

26. @Mozzywoods losing that mining time would be huge, and using probes to take down a warping gateway will take a lot of time.

27. @ForceSC2strategy

    I don't subscribe to that logic.

    A.This guy is great
    B.Therefore everything he does is great.

    I rather look at the facts. I have a gateway+probes, and you have a single isolated gateway. Convince me why I need to build a second gateway, and then convince how you are at an advantage when you gateway drops and mine does not.

    Its ESL its mouz clan, therefore its a good strategy. Bad logic. Just because it is ESL, it does not mean that embarrassing bad play can not take place

28. I've tried this strat twice now (players and myself gold league) and it has worked very well 😀 it is map dependent, so at least you won't get bored etc, but it is fun to work on 😀
    and yeah if they send all thier probes then np as yeah their economy goes right down, and if you can take that advantage then it's all good, worked on against terran as well 🙂

29. Thanks 4 the video : )

30. @Mozzywoods yes but he'd be at a very bad economic position.

31. @Bobbyearl78 Worse than the planetary fortress rush? Or the cannon rush? Or the reaper bunker rush? lol. Lots of cheese out there.

32. @0urher0nik0 Build a forge instead of a second gateway. And get cannons or a cybernetics core instead of a second gateway. It boils down to could have, should have. He could have done this but you don't know if thats 1 of 2 proxy gates or if there is more cheese coming.

33. "Keep Watching and Keep Pwning!"

    Yes SIR!!!!

34. any strategy CAN work… but this is one the worse ones i have seen. It is also very map dependent. Great job, Force with the play by play. Best SC2 channel imo

    I still want to see some more 2v2/3v3/4v4

35. hoooly snaps, that was an amazing pylon placement at the end, you can warp in units inside the base cross the valley, so nice.

36. @ApoC552
    idiot

37. What other maps would this strategy be useful on.?

38. Please post a proper response to this kind of cheesy build for the Protoss player.

39. Maybe after replay you can tell how to conter this strategy. From opp. view.

40. wow such an evil play!!!

41. @ForceSC2strategy i found the play to be genius, it's what sc2 is all about, decieving opponents into preparing for one thing and then going for something else.

42. I really sincerely hope I never have to play Starcraft against you, Force. For the sake of my win/loss ratio.

43. @ForceSC2strategy Could you post a counter, or post here on comments?

44. @ApoC552

    Hey mate!

    Thanks for your opinion, comments like these however always amuse me. When people state more or less 'This strategy wont work in real games' in a strategy replay video taken from professional players.

    This is a game between MaNa and Rine from the ESL Go4SC2 Cup, these are top world players in an ESL tourney.

    It's hard to believe strategies that players of that pedigree implement wont 'work well' in the ladder games of an average player.

    To each his own though!

45. awesome, really sweet that you included a link to the replay helps out a lot

46. How many Probes does it take to beat a Gateway's warping-in health generation, anyway? 4, just like Pylons?

    Lots of Protoss turtle up and fast-tech Void Rays as a sort of panic button once their early aggression (or even cheese) fails. Doing it deliberately and prepping your economy for it beforehand is really clever.

47. This is a horrible build that wont work well on a half decent player.

    Any good player will know that he has only a gateway alone, and you have a gateway with probes as well. No need to get a second gateway, no need to worry.

    Worst Force vid yet imo

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